1 00:00:07,909 --> 00:00:06,309 joining me now is the chief scientist 2 00:00:09,910 --> 00:00:07,919 for the international space station 3 00:00:11,110 --> 00:00:09,920 julie robinson and julie you're here in 4 00:00:12,950 --> 00:00:11,120 town with us in huntsville at the 5 00:00:14,470 --> 00:00:12,960 payload operations center and there's a 6 00:00:16,630 --> 00:00:14,480 working group going on and this is the 7 00:00:17,670 --> 00:00:16,640 chance for you guys to go face to face 8 00:00:20,150 --> 00:00:17,680 with those payload developers and 9 00:00:22,150 --> 00:00:20,160 researchers yeah so twice a year all the 10 00:00:23,429 --> 00:00:22,160 investigators come from the inter that 11 00:00:25,189 --> 00:00:23,439 are working on the international space 12 00:00:27,349 --> 00:00:25,199 station all around the country all 13 00:00:28,550 --> 00:00:27,359 around the world and the payload 14 00:00:30,710 --> 00:00:28,560 developers those are especially the 15 00:00:32,389 --> 00:00:30,720 people the engineers and operators that 16 00:00:34,150 --> 00:00:32,399 help the scientists get their work done 17 00:00:36,310 --> 00:00:34,160 they all come here to huntsville to talk 18 00:00:38,470 --> 00:00:36,320 to all of the people who are sitting 19 00:00:39,830 --> 00:00:38,480 right here in the control center and 20 00:00:41,350 --> 00:00:39,840 talk to them about their research what 21 00:00:42,790 --> 00:00:41,360 they're going to be doing on orbit all 22 00:00:44,150 --> 00:00:42,800 of the different challenges ahead so 23 00:00:45,830 --> 00:00:44,160 they can really get that plan together 24 00:00:47,670 --> 00:00:45,840 and be ready to operate 25 00:00:48,950 --> 00:00:47,680 they all want a piece of your time they 26 00:00:50,790 --> 00:00:48,960 you're the key to getting them onto 27 00:00:52,310 --> 00:00:50,800 space station sometimes right tell us 28 00:00:54,389 --> 00:00:52,320 tell us how that works when they come to 29 00:00:56,310 --> 00:00:54,399 you and say hey we have this great idea 30 00:00:58,389 --> 00:00:56,320 yeah you know things start from an idea 31 00:00:59,830 --> 00:00:58,399 but they go from an idea the next thing 32 00:01:02,470 --> 00:00:59,840 the scientist has to do is get funding 33 00:01:04,149 --> 00:01:02,480 for that idea and they go they've got to 34 00:01:05,910 --> 00:01:04,159 pitch it they send proposals to 35 00:01:07,830 --> 00:01:05,920 different organizations 36 00:01:09,830 --> 00:01:07,840 for the iss they can send them to nasa 37 00:01:11,670 --> 00:01:09,840 organizations but they also send them to 38 00:01:13,830 --> 00:01:11,680 our national lab manager the center for 39 00:01:15,670 --> 00:01:13,840 the advancement of science in space even 40 00:01:17,590 --> 00:01:15,680 other government agencies like the nih 41 00:01:19,749 --> 00:01:17,600 and nsf sometimes fund research on the 42 00:01:22,870 --> 00:01:19,759 space station once they get that funding 43 00:01:24,149 --> 00:01:22,880 then the job really begins because they 44 00:01:26,390 --> 00:01:24,159 are 45 00:01:28,310 --> 00:01:26,400 putting all the plans together trying to 46 00:01:29,749 --> 00:01:28,320 figure out how what they need to launch 47 00:01:32,230 --> 00:01:29,759 how much they need to launch what are 48 00:01:33,830 --> 00:01:32,240 the procedures going to be and then as 49 00:01:35,030 --> 00:01:33,840 they get planned in once they get to 50 00:01:36,950 --> 00:01:35,040 that time when they're really ready to 51 00:01:38,149 --> 00:01:36,960 fly they come here to make those final 52 00:01:40,789 --> 00:01:38,159 plans 53 00:01:43,510 --> 00:01:40,799 so i've been here since expedition 54 00:01:44,789 --> 00:01:43,520 6. uh you've been here how long 55 00:01:47,350 --> 00:01:44,799 uh since 56 00:01:50,789 --> 00:01:47,360 re well i i started working on iss 57 00:01:53,749 --> 00:01:50,799 before it launched um but i came to the 58 00:01:54,789 --> 00:01:53,759 space station program in expedition 9. 59 00:01:56,630 --> 00:01:54,799 so 60 00:01:57,990 --> 00:01:56,640 what do you see when you look at the 61 00:01:59,590 --> 00:01:58,000 space station now 62 00:02:02,149 --> 00:01:59,600 what do you see yeah the biggest thing 63 00:02:03,670 --> 00:02:02,159 that struck me today especially with all 64 00:02:05,270 --> 00:02:03,680 the payload developers in town was the 65 00:02:07,830 --> 00:02:05,280 first meeting of this type that i went 66 00:02:09,830 --> 00:02:07,840 to back in 2004 and it was in a small 67 00:02:13,350 --> 00:02:09,840 conference room with about 40 people 68 00:02:14,790 --> 00:02:13,360 because we only had 15 payloads 15 to 20 69 00:02:16,790 --> 00:02:14,800 payloads or experiments that we were 70 00:02:17,750 --> 00:02:16,800 going to do on orbit at that time 71 00:02:20,390 --> 00:02:17,760 and 72 00:02:23,190 --> 00:02:20,400 today it's amazing there are over 300 73 00:02:24,470 --> 00:02:23,200 attendees it's really a sign of one 74 00:02:25,830 --> 00:02:24,480 principle that a lot of people haven't 75 00:02:27,990 --> 00:02:25,840 heard about which is that the space 76 00:02:29,910 --> 00:02:28,000 station is full it's very competitive to 77 00:02:31,270 --> 00:02:29,920 get up there to get going 78 00:02:33,589 --> 00:02:31,280 scientists always have to keep looking 79 00:02:34,949 --> 00:02:33,599 for money and the competition among 80 00:02:36,390 --> 00:02:34,959 those payloads is a really good thing 81 00:02:38,630 --> 00:02:36,400 because it means that we're having the 82 00:02:40,790 --> 00:02:38,640 best of the best go into space 83 00:02:43,509 --> 00:02:40,800 a lot of commercial partners up there 84 00:02:45,509 --> 00:02:43,519 now let's talk about their research and 85 00:02:46,949 --> 00:02:45,519 and how that's making a difference now 86 00:02:50,390 --> 00:02:46,959 yeah one of the interesting things that 87 00:02:52,390 --> 00:02:50,400 we see is nasa research is more focused 88 00:02:54,229 --> 00:02:52,400 on future exploration you know what do 89 00:02:56,470 --> 00:02:54,239 we need to know so that humans will be 90 00:02:58,149 --> 00:02:56,480 healthy when they go to mars 91 00:02:59,589 --> 00:02:58,159 right now if we set humans to mars they 92 00:03:00,470 --> 00:02:59,599 would not be in great shape when they 93 00:03:02,309 --> 00:03:00,480 got there there'd be a number of 94 00:03:04,949 --> 00:03:02,319 problems we haven't solved yet 95 00:03:06,550 --> 00:03:04,959 nasa also focuses on better spacecraft 96 00:03:08,390 --> 00:03:06,560 materials other kinds of things new 97 00:03:09,990 --> 00:03:08,400 technologies 98 00:03:12,149 --> 00:03:10,000 on the other hand the space station can 99 00:03:14,070 --> 00:03:12,159 do so much more because there's research 100 00:03:15,990 --> 00:03:14,080 there that can help in improving health 101 00:03:17,670 --> 00:03:16,000 on earth that can provide better 102 00:03:20,070 --> 00:03:17,680 materials that make better products and 103 00:03:22,149 --> 00:03:20,080 really help our economy be strong that 104 00:03:24,630 --> 00:03:22,159 kind of research sometimes it comes out 105 00:03:26,710 --> 00:03:24,640 of the nasa work anyway but a lot of 106 00:03:28,789 --> 00:03:26,720 times it comes in through the iss 107 00:03:31,270 --> 00:03:28,799 national laboratory congress declared 108 00:03:32,869 --> 00:03:31,280 iss and national lab clear back in 2005 109 00:03:36,070 --> 00:03:32,879 for just this reason so that people 110 00:03:38,149 --> 00:03:36,080 could do that research and be sure that 111 00:03:40,070 --> 00:03:38,159 we got the maximum benefit back here on 112 00:03:41,350 --> 00:03:40,080 earth for the american people 113 00:03:42,869 --> 00:03:41,360 and probably one of the most exciting 114 00:03:44,710 --> 00:03:42,879 things coming up is that scott kelly is 115 00:03:46,789 --> 00:03:44,720 going to return after being there a year 116 00:03:48,309 --> 00:03:46,799 tell us about that research and what 117 00:03:50,309 --> 00:03:48,319 that's going to mean to to the whole 118 00:03:52,550 --> 00:03:50,319 science community yeah well you know the 119 00:03:55,750 --> 00:03:52,560 last time we had crew members on orbit 120 00:03:57,750 --> 00:03:55,760 for that long it was russian cosmonauts 121 00:03:59,190 --> 00:03:57,760 and it was at a time when we just didn't 122 00:04:01,350 --> 00:03:59,200 have the medical technologies that we 123 00:04:03,270 --> 00:04:01,360 have today so we've been able to do some 124 00:04:04,789 --> 00:04:03,280 amazing things with the one year 125 00:04:07,750 --> 00:04:04,799 increment with both scott kelly and 126 00:04:09,670 --> 00:04:07,760 mikhail kornyenko or misha we call him 127 00:04:11,429 --> 00:04:09,680 and both of them are participating in a 128 00:04:13,350 --> 00:04:11,439 set of joint research studies that were 129 00:04:15,429 --> 00:04:13,360 developed between the u.s and the 130 00:04:16,949 --> 00:04:15,439 russian side working together one of the 131 00:04:19,110 --> 00:04:16,959 most exciting one of the ones of those 132 00:04:21,909 --> 00:04:19,120 is fluid shifts where we're actually 133 00:04:24,150 --> 00:04:21,919 using a russian device called chibus to 134 00:04:25,909 --> 00:04:24,160 draw the fluid out of the upper body and 135 00:04:28,469 --> 00:04:25,919 then measuring if that helps with some 136 00:04:30,390 --> 00:04:28,479 of the vision loss troubles that some 137 00:04:32,150 --> 00:04:30,400 astronauts have in space and so these 138 00:04:33,830 --> 00:04:32,160 are our first two subjects the other 139 00:04:35,909 --> 00:04:33,840 thing that's of course amazing is to see 140 00:04:37,590 --> 00:04:35,919 that whole year because most of our 141 00:04:40,790 --> 00:04:37,600 expeditions to the space station are 142 00:04:42,870 --> 00:04:40,800 about six months or even shorter and we 143 00:04:45,110 --> 00:04:42,880 know that a transit to mars is between 144 00:04:47,110 --> 00:04:45,120 six months and a year so knowing that 145 00:04:48,629 --> 00:04:47,120 longer period of time helps us know if 146 00:04:50,710 --> 00:04:48,639 there's some exploration research that 147 00:04:53,110 --> 00:04:50,720 we're missing out on today that we 148 00:04:55,030 --> 00:04:53,120 really need to do so that we'll be sure 149 00:04:56,629 --> 00:04:55,040 that we're go for mars when the vehicles 150 00:04:58,629 --> 00:04:56,639 go from ours 151 00:05:00,629 --> 00:04:58,639 some news coming out hopefully this week 152 00:05:02,870 --> 00:05:00,639 you've had the hard job of looking at 153 00:05:05,110 --> 00:05:02,880 and picking the top four 154 00:05:07,270 --> 00:05:05,120 most important research uh results from 155 00:05:09,430 --> 00:05:07,280 last year yeah well i have a blog called 156 00:05:10,390 --> 00:05:09,440 a lab aloft and 157 00:05:14,230 --> 00:05:10,400 we 158 00:05:15,510 --> 00:05:14,240 that are crossing our desks that are 159 00:05:17,510 --> 00:05:15,520 interesting what's the latest and 160 00:05:19,110 --> 00:05:17,520 greatest and someone asked me to please 161 00:05:21,430 --> 00:05:19,120 tell them what the top three results 162 00:05:22,790 --> 00:05:21,440 were of the year and i sat down with 163 00:05:24,150 --> 00:05:22,800 some of my science staff and we 164 00:05:25,189 --> 00:05:24,160 brainstormed and we threw out different 165 00:05:27,670 --> 00:05:25,199 ideas and we wrote them on the white 166 00:05:29,430 --> 00:05:27,680 board and we settled on four we couldn't 167 00:05:30,710 --> 00:05:29,440 we couldn't we could not cut it to three 168 00:05:32,230 --> 00:05:30,720 and the reason we had to settle on four 169 00:05:34,230 --> 00:05:32,240 is because there's so many different 170 00:05:36,469 --> 00:05:34,240 disciplines doing work on the space 171 00:05:37,670 --> 00:05:36,479 station so you can pick you know what's 172 00:05:39,110 --> 00:05:37,680 the most exciting thing that happened in 173 00:05:40,629 --> 00:05:39,120 life science but you're leaving out all 174 00:05:42,310 --> 00:05:40,639 the physical scientists and all the 175 00:05:44,070 --> 00:05:42,320 earth scientists so we did get it down 176 00:05:46,070 --> 00:05:44,080 to four so can you give us a sneak peek 177 00:05:48,070 --> 00:05:46,080 of what that sneak peek okay well one of 178 00:05:49,510 --> 00:05:48,080 them is is actually based on research 179 00:05:51,029 --> 00:05:49,520 that happened a while back on the space 180 00:05:52,469 --> 00:05:51,039 station and that was some protein 181 00:05:54,950 --> 00:05:52,479 crystal growth research 182 00:05:57,029 --> 00:05:54,960 where japanese investigators got better 183 00:05:59,350 --> 00:05:57,039 structure on a protein that helped them 184 00:06:01,590 --> 00:05:59,360 design a drug to treat duchenne's 185 00:06:03,350 --> 00:06:01,600 muscular dystrophy it's a form of 186 00:06:05,510 --> 00:06:03,360 muscular dystrophy it's genetic it 187 00:06:07,909 --> 00:06:05,520 affects boys and it's really pretty 188 00:06:10,230 --> 00:06:07,919 common like one in ten thousand boys so 189 00:06:12,629 --> 00:06:10,240 they got as far as testing this 190 00:06:14,230 --> 00:06:12,639 potential drug in animal models because 191 00:06:15,749 --> 00:06:14,240 there are some animals that also have a 192 00:06:18,629 --> 00:06:15,759 genetic disorder that looks like 193 00:06:21,909 --> 00:06:18,639 muscular dystrophy but um that's as far 194 00:06:23,909 --> 00:06:21,919 as got as it had gotten and this year uh 195 00:06:26,710 --> 00:06:23,919 through a new partnership they are 196 00:06:28,710 --> 00:06:26,720 starting clinical trials in humans so 197 00:06:30,870 --> 00:06:28,720 you never know 198 00:06:32,150 --> 00:06:30,880 a lot of clinical trials end in stepping 199 00:06:34,390 --> 00:06:32,160 away and deciding that's not a good 200 00:06:36,150 --> 00:06:34,400 treatment but in my mind 201 00:06:37,189 --> 00:06:36,160 once we've gotten to that point then it 202 00:06:38,790 --> 00:06:37,199 means 203 00:06:40,070 --> 00:06:38,800 if it doesn't go on to become a 204 00:06:41,990 --> 00:06:40,080 treatment it's because it wasn't a good 205 00:06:43,830 --> 00:06:42,000 treatment it's not because somebody 206 00:06:45,830 --> 00:06:43,840 couldn't raise the funding and so in my 207 00:06:47,749 --> 00:06:45,840 mind once we get to this point and judge 208 00:06:49,430 --> 00:06:47,759 it on its merits that's the that's a 209 00:06:50,950 --> 00:06:49,440 real goal for all of our space station 210 00:06:52,870 --> 00:06:50,960 research that's helpful to health here 211 00:06:54,710 --> 00:06:52,880 on earth it's a success 212 00:06:55,749 --> 00:06:54,720 finally before you go we won't we won't 213 00:06:57,990 --> 00:06:55,759 give away the other three we'll make 214 00:07:00,230 --> 00:06:58,000 people go to your blog 215 00:07:02,309 --> 00:07:00,240 aloft you're here also tonight they're 216 00:07:04,150 --> 00:07:02,319 opening a new science exhibit science on 217 00:07:05,029 --> 00:07:04,160 orbit at the u.s space and rocket center 218 00:07:06,870 --> 00:07:05,039 here in huntsville you're going to be 219 00:07:09,029 --> 00:07:06,880 there for that what what's that like to 220 00:07:11,110 --> 00:07:09,039 see see it really just being an exhibit 221 00:07:12,870 --> 00:07:11,120 people can really learn more about the 222 00:07:15,189 --> 00:07:12,880 space station well one of the great 223 00:07:17,350 --> 00:07:15,199 things on the space station today is 224 00:07:19,270 --> 00:07:17,360 that we have so many stories of the 225 00:07:21,909 --> 00:07:19,280 different outstanding research 226 00:07:24,070 --> 00:07:21,919 discoveries research impacts people that 227 00:07:26,629 --> 00:07:24,080 are live today because of research on 228 00:07:29,110 --> 00:07:26,639 the space station and those stories are 229 00:07:30,469 --> 00:07:29,120 now becoming parts of the major exhibits 230 00:07:31,909 --> 00:07:30,479 and so this exhibit at the space and 231 00:07:34,309 --> 00:07:31,919 rocket center 232 00:07:37,110 --> 00:07:34,319 my scientific team and other specialists 233 00:07:39,350 --> 00:07:37,120 from around the agency had their inputs 234 00:07:40,550 --> 00:07:39,360 into that so that we could be sure to 235 00:07:42,550 --> 00:07:40,560 tell the whole story of the space 236 00:07:44,869 --> 00:07:42,560 station not just the engineering story 237 00:07:46,550 --> 00:07:44,879 of how did we build the most amazing 238 00:07:48,629 --> 00:07:46,560 spacecraft ever built 239 00:07:49,909 --> 00:07:48,639 and not just the story of living and 240 00:07:52,469 --> 00:07:49,919 working in space and what it's like to 241 00:07:54,390 --> 00:07:52,479 be an astronaut but also the story of 242 00:07:55,909 --> 00:07:54,400 how it makes our lives better right here 243 00:07:57,350 --> 00:07:55,919 on earth and so it's really exciting to 244 00:07:58,469 --> 00:07:57,360 be here for that opening and for that 245 00:08:00,550 --> 00:07:58,479 story to be told right here in 246 00:08:02,550 --> 00:08:00,560 huntsville where the people who do that 247 00:08:03,990 --> 00:08:02,560 research live and work as well and the 248 00:08:05,350 --> 00:08:04,000 folks right right behind us that are 249 00:08:06,629 --> 00:08:05,360 working right now julie thank you so